bush for the u.s. to stay in afghanistan. and i wanted to play that clip for you from the american perspective discussion of women's rights in afghanistan have been built up from the military occupation and intervention there. from your perspective, how do you hear that? is he right, do you agree with george w. bush? >> to be honest, i wish he was right. there's so many elements or layers to the problem that you just cannot -- i think it's naive of president bush in afghanistan to say if we leave the women would suffer. unfortunately, the women have suffered with the presence of america and the women will continue to suffer, unfortunately. i want to come back to the issue of taliban and peace talks because that's still an issue that's heavily supported and tracked by u.s. involvement. so when we talk about peace negotiations with the taliban, the question for not only women but the common citizen in afghanist afghanistan, what do these peace talks really entail and what would it mean for women after these peace talks and nego